The price per gigabyte for RAM is less than $5 right now and for SSDs, it's less than 50¢. Still much more expensive than a DVD (I'm guessing less than $1 to press one), but if prices for flash storage keep falling this rapidly, we may see 2 TB SSDs for $100 in two or three years, so 10 - 20 GB cartridges should be dirt cheap. Would be kinda awesome to have the cartridge return.
A post that mentions the name of a videogame company that doesn't have any hate comments? Sweet! Cartridges are pretty cool, but I only see them being practical for handhelds.
Matt Ross no they were not. It was never designed to have analog sticks. They simply took the standard digital pad that originally released with the Playstation and stuck two analog sticks on it. The dimensions did not change which meant that they were in less than ideal positions. This made the pad cramped. They then for some reason never changed the base design..... The ps4 pad is finally designed to actually have analog sticks and feels brilliant.
Lee Fear I disagree the sticks on the ps 1-3 all work and play great, yes the PS4 feels much better, but not because of the placement of the sticks. It's because it's more form fitting and comfortable for most people.
conner potter erm you have just contradicted yourself. Yes the stick placement was the issue as they were place to close together and the rest of the pad was too cramped. It was designed as a digital pad without the sticks and was great in this respect. However they then simply jerry rigged a couple of stick onto this pad and left it at that.... the initial analog pad was larger but was effectively just scaled up a bit which made it equally uncomfortable so they went back to the original size for the dual shock 1. It was not until the ps4 pad that they have actually designed the pad to be an analog pad and it shows in how comfortable the ps4 pad is. You will notice that the sticks on the ps4 pad are further apart from each other and also placed further from the outside of the grips. This means the thumbs now fall naturally onto the sticks rather than having to do hand gymnastics to work them.....
Well thats one of the things that has held back Nintendo. For portable things is fine because they don't get scratch and probably a bit more memory than say a UMD. But the N64 got held back compared to the CD based ps one
Lee Fear How did i contradict myself? Also if you look at the 2 controllers the distance between the sticks is the same. I love the feel of the PS4 controller but the PS Legacy controller feels just as good in my opinion. And stick placement has nothing to do with it. You want wonkey stick placement look at the xbox controllers. Sure it works but it's weird :/
conner potter the contradiction was that you fully admitted that the controller did not suit everyone at all. And then said that the ps4 pad feels better as the spacing is better (which was the issue on the old pads). And no they are not the same distance apart. The new pad is much larger (the same size as the xbox one pad) and the geometry has been adjusted quite a lot). No matter what you think though it is undeniable that the other dual shocks had never been designed to have analog sticks which is dumb.
Jose Palomino I agree. For handheld the carts are a great idea as optical media need a lot of tech to prevent the disks skipping. But yes the n64 was held back by the cartridge even though it did have the advantage of much quicker load times.
There is something that feels so good about holding a cart. It's tangible, for some reason, to me when I hold a disk it doesn't feel tangible. I know it's all just 1's and 0's either way, but dang it feels good to plug a large cart into a console.
With solid state media becoming so large, fast, and cheap, we may in the future see Nintendo go back to cartridges. Wouldn't that be something?
ReplyDeleteCartridges are exspensive so for something like Wii U it's definitely better to use disks but for handhelds it's fine since they're smaller.
ReplyDeleteCartridges are better because they don't require you to save data on the system, since the files are stored on the cartridge!
ReplyDeleteThat's Nintendo for yah
ReplyDeleteluigi EXE The alternative being your console breaks and you lose the save data on several games....
ReplyDeleteluigi EXE
ReplyDeleteOf course, a back-up cloud save would be available.
I never noticed that.
ReplyDeleteJust like the Playstation's controller. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
ReplyDeleteThe price per gigabyte for RAM is less than $5 right now and for SSDs, it's less than 50¢. Still much more expensive than a DVD (I'm guessing less than $1 to press one), but if prices for flash storage keep falling this rapidly, we may see 2 TB SSDs for $100 in two or three years, so 10 - 20 GB cartridges should be dirt cheap. Would be kinda awesome to have the cartridge return.
ReplyDeleteThe only bad thing with cartridges is the dust that gets inside but you can just press B to blow it all out,
ReplyDeleteDiscs on the other hand? Easily lost, can be scratched, can break easily etc.
Nintendo 64 and ds are my favorite
ReplyDeletecartridges will last 40 to 50 years and longer if stored in a cool dry places..
ReplyDeleteyup agered
ReplyDeleteluigi EXE Sure, but just five years ago, a 120 GB over cost as much as a 500 GB one does today.
ReplyDeleteStill remember when I got my gameboy pocket as a gift, later wanting the gameboy color ,cause IT HAD COLOR!! fresh memories
ReplyDeleteA post that mentions the name of a videogame company that doesn't have any hate comments? Sweet!
ReplyDeleteCartridges are pretty cool, but I only see them being practical for handhelds.
Matt Ross playstation controller was badly broke though and they did fix it for ps4.
ReplyDeleteGabriel Comsa Wth do cartridges have to do with DRM?
ReplyDeleteThen why does Wii u have discs boom
ReplyDeleteDallas TX Because discs are still much cheaper as of now.
ReplyDeleteLee Fear It was great. Ps1,2, and 3 were all fine.
ReplyDeleteDallas TX
ReplyDeleteBecause disks are cheaper, have more memory and are easier to make games on
Matt Ross no they were not. It was never designed to have analog sticks. They simply took the standard digital pad that originally released with the Playstation and stuck two analog sticks on it. The dimensions did not change which meant that they were in less than ideal positions. This made the pad cramped. They then for some reason never changed the base design..... The ps4 pad is finally designed to actually have analog sticks and feels brilliant.
ReplyDeleteLee Fear I have always found them comfortable.
ReplyDeleteLee Fear
ReplyDeleteI disagree the sticks on the ps 1-3 all work and play great, yes the PS4 feels much better, but not because of the placement of the sticks. It's because it's more form fitting and comfortable for most people.
Esteban Ruiz now that i think of it where IS it?
ReplyDeleteconner potter erm you have just contradicted yourself. Yes the stick placement was the issue as they were place to close together and the rest of the pad was too cramped. It was designed as a digital pad without the sticks and was great in this respect. However they then simply jerry rigged a couple of stick onto this pad and left it at that.... the initial analog pad was larger but was effectively just scaled up a bit which made it equally uncomfortable so they went back to the original size for the dual shock 1. It was not until the ps4 pad that they have actually designed the pad to be an analog pad and it shows in how comfortable the ps4 pad is. You will notice that the sticks on the ps4 pad are further apart from each other and also placed further from the outside of the grips. This means the thumbs now fall naturally onto the sticks rather than having to do hand gymnastics to work them.....
ReplyDeleteWell thats one of the things that has held back Nintendo. For portable things is fine because they don't get scratch and probably a bit more memory than say a UMD. But the N64 got held back compared to the CD based ps one
ReplyDeleteLee Fear
ReplyDeleteHow did i contradict myself? Also if you look at the 2 controllers the distance between the sticks is the same. I love the feel of the PS4 controller but the PS Legacy controller feels just as good in my opinion. And stick placement has nothing to do with it. You want wonkey stick placement look at the xbox controllers. Sure it works but it's weird :/
conner potter the contradiction was that you fully admitted that the controller did not suit everyone at all. And then said that the ps4 pad feels better as the spacing is better (which was the issue on the old pads). And no they are not the same distance apart. The new pad is much larger (the same size as the xbox one pad) and the geometry has been adjusted quite a lot). No matter what you think though it is undeniable that the other dual shocks had never been designed to have analog sticks which is dumb.
ReplyDeleteJose Palomino I agree. For handheld the carts are a great idea as optical media need a lot of tech to prevent the disks skipping. But yes the n64 was held back by the cartridge even though it did have the advantage of much quicker load times.
ReplyDeleteThere is something that feels so good about holding a cart. It's tangible, for some reason, to me when I hold a disk it doesn't feel tangible. I know it's all just 1's and 0's either way, but dang it feels good to plug a large cart into a console.
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